Hebrews 6:6

Jewel · Subject: Hebrews 6:6 Mon May 19, 2008 11:07 am

Hey, this is my first topic post in this section.
ANYWAY:

I was listening to WOTM this morning and someone brought up the topic of Hebrews 6:6 and the whole "losing your salvation" situation. Now, I know that it is impossible for someone who is truly saved to lose their salvation. However, can someone enlighten me on what this scripture is talking about? And, to put it into context, I'll submit verses one through 6. Thank you kindly:

Hebrews 6: 1-6

1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

3 And this will we do, if God permit.

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

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LaRosa · Moderator

this passage is in reference to a believer who is out of fellowship (i.e. a "carnal" Christian or "backslider")... they are already saved... so there is nothing that can be done to "save them" again... they basically just need to repent and get back into fellowship, walking in the light of Christ

that's the brief answer...

lj.

Michael · Administrator

Jewel wrote:

Hey, this is my first topic post in this section.
ANYWAY:

I was listening to WOTM this morning and someone brought up the topic of Hebrews 6:6 and the whole "losing your salvation" situation. Now, I know that it is impossible for someone who is truly saved to lose their salvation. However, can someone enlighten me on what this scripture is talking about? And, to put it into context, I'll submit verses one through 6. Thank you kindly:

Hebrews 6: 1-6

1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

3 And this will we do, if God permit.

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

This is basically a text that is in favor of eternal security. It all depends on how you're looking at the text. Starting at verse 4, the writer is basically saying that once a person has been enlightened to the truth, has tasted the heavenly gift (salvation is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast), and made partakers of the Holy Ghost (regenerated), and have tasted the good Word of God, and the powers of the world to come....

If that person were to fall away, it would be impossible for them to be saved again. Why? Well, it's because Christ was slain ONCE for all sin. It was His sacrifice that secure salvation for all those who turn from their sin and place their faith in Christ.

This passage really speaks of the efficacy of Christ's atoning work on the cross. It speaks of the power of the cross. His once for all sacrifice was enough to save men and keep them saved. If a person were able to truly fall away from the faith, Christ would have to be sacrificed yet again. That's impossible, though.

I think this verse is what makes the demonic practice of the Roman Catholic Mass so damnable. When they carry out the Mass, they are actually "sacrificing" Christ each and every time. They have Mass daily. Each and every day they "sacrifice" Christ afresh, and puts him to open shame. In their communion, the practice of transubstantiation is when they believe the communion elements literally become the body and blood of Christ. They believe they're literally eating his flesh and drinking his blood. How demonic is that?

This verse is another reason I refuse to wear a crucifix. I don't even wear a regular cross, but a crucifix is certainly horrible. The image of Christ on the cross brings shame to Him. He's no longer there. He has defeated the cross and is risen! The cross could not utterly destroy Him. Death lost its sting!

Over, I'm done ranting.

Hope this helped.

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It's true that doctrine divides. It's also true that love unifies. The unity we have in the faith is rooted and grounded in truth and love. Remove truth (right theology and doctrine) from the mix and you have less than Biblical unity. Remove love and you have no unity. Love causes us to seek truth and share that truth with others so that we become more unified. God is truth, and as we are more acquainted with His truth, the closer we are to Him, and the closer we become to each other

btate0121 · Subject: Re: Hebrews 6:6 Mon May 19, 2008 1:03 pm

ya made a brotha whip out the Sword real quick to check what Mr. MacArthur has to say about the subject.

Quote:

6:6 fallen away. This general term occurs only here int he NT. in the LXX, it was used to translate terms for severe unfaithfulness and apostasy. It is equivalent to the apostasy in 3:12. The seriousness of this unfaithfulness is seen in the severe description of rejection within this verse: they re-crucify Christ and treat Him contemptuously. those who sinned against Christ in such a way had no hope of restoration or forgiveness. The reason is that they had rejected Him with full knowledge and conscious experience. With full revelation they rejected the truth, concluding the opposite of the truth about Christ, and thus had no hope of being saved. They can never have more knowledge than they had when they rejected it. They have concluded that Jesus should have been crucified, and they stand with his enemies. There is no possibility of these verses referring to losing salvation. Many Scripture passages make unmistakably clear that salvation is eternal. Those who want to make this verse mean that believers can lose salvation will have to admit that it would then also say that one could never get it back again.

for your consideration family.